[Hjælp] Renaissance guitar!

[Niels Fuglsang]

Hej Jeg har nu fundet noget materiale til at spille oud og renaissance guitar. Jeg skal spille oud og ville derfor gerne vide om renaissance guitaren er lidt a la det samme som oud eller lut.  Det jeg kan se er at når jeg søger på renaissance guitar kommer der mange lutter og ouder frem! Hmm... Er det det samme, eller kan materialet ikke bruges til det?

[Mie Sindet Daugaard]

Altså generelt tror jeg det handler om hvorvidt guitaren har lige så mange strenge og stemmes på samme måde som en oud.  Hvis den har det og hvis den gør det skulle der nok ikke være noget i vejen for at spille de samme stykker på begge instrumenter.

[Niels Fuglsang]

okay hehe.. jeg har i midlertid fundet ud af at det ikke er det samme, og der nogen forskel, men det lyder til at min musiklærer kan finde noget materiale..

[Lise Rasmussen]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar <span style="font-weight: bold;">"Renaissance and Baroque guitars These are the gracile ancestors of the modern classical guitar. They are substantially smaller and more delicate than the classical guitar, and generate a much quieter sound. The strings are paired in courses as in a modern 12 string guitar, but they only have four or five courses of strings rather than six. They were more often used as rhythm instruments in ensembles than as solo instruments, and can often be seen in that role in early music performances. (Gaspar Sanz' Instrucción de Música sobre la Guitarra Española of 1674 constitutes the majority of the surviving solo corpus for the era.) Renaissance and Baroque guitars are easily distinguished because the Renaissance guitar is very plain and the Baroque guitar is very ornate, with inlays all over the neck and body, and a paper-cutout inverted "wedding cake" inside the hole." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oud "The oud (Arabic: عود ʿūd; Somali: Kaban; Persian: بربط barbat; Turkish: ud or ut;[1] Greek: ούτι; Armenian: ուդ, Azeri: ud) is a pear-shaped, stringed instrument similar to a lute used in traditional Middle Eastern music and East African music. (...) Defining features * Lack of Frets: The oud, unlike many other plucked stringed instruments, does not have a fretted neck. This allows the player to be more expressive by using slides and vibrato. It also makes it possible to play the microtones of the Maqam System. This development is relatively recent, as ouds still had frets ca. AD 1100, and they gradually lost them by AD 1300, mirroring the general development of Near-Eastern music which abandoned harmony in favor of melismatics. * Strings: With some exceptions, the modern oud has eleven strings. Ten of these strings are paired together in courses of two. The eleventh, lowest string remains single. There are many different tuning systems for the oud which are outlined below. The ancient oud had only four courses - five by the 9th century. The strings are generally lighter to play than the modern classical guitar. * Pegbox: The pegbox of the oud is bent back at a 45-90° angle from the neck of the instrument. * Body: The oud's body has a staved, bowl-like back resembling the outside of half a watermelon, unlike the flat back of a guitar. This bowl allows the oud to resonate and have a more complex tone. * Sound-holes: The oud generally has one to three sound-holes." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lute Jeg gider ikke citere mere - men man kan læse at lutten har bånd i modsætning til ouden, skønt begge har fælles ophav, og at lutten har en umådelig gigantisk mængde strenge.

[Lise Rasmussen]

Alt det ovennævnte pladder resulterer i at: NEJ - en oud, lut og renaissance guitar er overhovedet ikke det samme Hvis du er i tvivl om noget en anden gang, er Wikipedia et dejligt, rart, lyst og venligt sted at begynde sin søgning (foruden herinde naturligvis )

[Niels Fuglsang]

hmm.. vidste godt at ingen af tingene var det samme.. Men jeg ville høre om materiale til renaissanceguitar kunne bruges til oud, men har fundet matetriale til ud, og min musiklærer har også snakket om at kunne finde noget..